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([personal profile] synapticjava Mar. 23rd, 2006 05:10 am)
What is it about gay men that make them hate each other so much?

Long LONG story short: there was this older gentleman that was after me tonight; I wound up telling him that I have a boyfriend (which is about 1/3 truth). He was a really sweet guy but I just wasn't interested. Anyway, we all had way too much to drink, but this guy had so much to drink that his legs gave out - as in, he couldn't walk at all. So I, along with James (that's a whole nother post in and of itself), escorted him out the door and helped him into a cab. Meanwhile, all of these hanus mean drunken assholes were taking pictures of it! As in "and this is what happens at Charlie's...etc".

How is this okay? How is this acceptable? First of all, these are all guys that I know from the bars that I frequent or from working on the strip, and whatever. Second of all, they don't know this man who is in need of assistance. Third of all, who gives anyone the right to make fun of someone like that? That is just not acceptable. That is not humane. That is just not cool.

Luckily, I had enough courage (granted, it was false courage - you do the math) and the anger to stand up and say something. Sadly enough, under normal sober conditions I would have just let it pass for fear of causing conflict or getting into a confrontation. But tonight, I actually did something. I started yelling at these guys about how this is not OKAY and that some day, SOME DAY, they would be old too and need help, and how would they feel if someone was snapping pictures at them in their time of need. Granted, I was much more heated and much snottier when talking to them, but that really really upset me. These words don't give merit to how angry I was at these guys. And, what I said probably will get me ostrasized from some of the bars that they work at, but I really and truly feel better knowing that maybe, just maybe, I helped a little bit. Maybe something I said go through to one of those jerks. And even if it didn't - I feel better for standing up for not only this guy, for myself, but also for anyone who's ever been in a similar situation.

I just don't understand how anyone - no matter how drunk or high or whatever they are - can excuse that kind of behavior. How can you look at those pictures and still laugh; knowing that this person was in need of help. How can you look yourself in the mirror knowing that you laughed at someone who was in pain and who needed help? I just don't get it. But I'm damn glad I was able to at least stick up for him.

From: [identity profile] imaginaryimages.livejournal.com


Good for you, sticking up for the guy. I have to say though, being mean has nothing to do with being gay. I've seen very similar things in all walks of life. I'd even say that the straightest, whitest of them all can probably be the worst. Not sure if most of those folks were college age, but when I was in college, I saw that behaviour A LOT. People were always picking on the low man on the pole.

I bet you'll find though that most won't be too upset over you standing up for someone. If they do give you a hard time, stand your ground and simply tell them it wasn't right, to "kick a man when he's down."


From: [identity profile] chocgood84.livejournal.com


I bet you'll find though that most won't be too upset over you standing up for someone. If they do give you a hard time, stand your ground and simply tell them it wasn't right, to "kick a man when he's down."

Unfortunetely, I'm the talk of the strip, in one capacity or another. Some people have said good things, some people said bad. Oh well, I still know I did the right thing.

From: [identity profile] wildflowerfever.livejournal.com


I'm glad you stuck up for him, too.

It's kind of sad, I'm taking a class on Gender Bending this semester, and our professor (who, while extremely dedicated to queer studies and extremely open, doesn't have a lot of experience with beyond-Beloit queer life) always wants to make the arguement that gay bars should be safe spaces for queer people to go for respite, and the rest of us (the majority of which are queer) try and explain how that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.

Sometimes I really don't understand our "community."


From: [identity profile] chocgood84.livejournal.com


Well, on the one hand, I do think we need that safe space from outsiders. But on the other hand, it's not very effective - it's like locking a pack of heyinas in a room for a month and seeing who's alive at the end.

From: [identity profile] trepkos.livejournal.com


And yes, I've seen some appalling behaviour from gay men - viz; deliberately getting a friend of mine's alcoholic boyfriend drunk when he was trying to stay clean, and then, when the guy ended up with a short jail term for being drunk and disorderly conduct, getting the club we went to, to play the theme of a well-known prison drama that all the queens watched avidly ...
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From: [personal profile] caviling


How incredibly tacky.

Of course, my assumption wouldn't have been that gay guys hate other gay guys (though for all I know maybe they do), but that this is further proof our generation was raised by wolves. It's the end times, people.


Good on you for helping that guy and not letting the bastards just get away with it.

From: [identity profile] chocgood84.livejournal.com


I think it's partly our generation, and partly gay men. High school girls have nothing on gay men - we are the original mean girls.

Thanks, luv:)
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From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com


Good for you for standing up for what you know was right, Brad. Karma is real, I believe. You are likely to reap what you sow.

*hugs*
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